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Now that i have finished making my own warhammer game, i tested it with a friend, and we stayed with some doubts of the rules, maybe one of you could be so kind and would explain:

1. We didnt catch well the monsters victims in battle: After assigning for the first time, they are keeping their victim the next round if monster isnt pinned; but then we have to assign the monsters every round new? Or do they try to fight the same character the whole battle?

2. Barbar reached fury ability, has now 2 attacks. Means, that after killing for example 3 monsters with deathblow, he can attack again? Can he move again too for attacking a monster being out of range?

3. This deathblow: has to make it clockwise, right? Means, when character is surrounded by monsters, with a bit luck he can kill the whole monster circle around him? And other: let us say, he is surrounded by two monsters on the left, then other character, then 3 monsters on the right site, he should start fighting the monsters on the right site, so he has the possibility to slain all, right? (when starting with the two on left, he has to stop after the second for the character standing next, right?) Dont blame me being stupid, only want to be sure that we are playing right emoticon

4. Character is moving: has to stop, when passing a monster, will say, has the monster a control-zone, preventing an enemy to move further?

5. Can an elf with 0 HP cure himself with his potion?

Sorry for my somewhat broken english emoticon.
It would be very nice, if someone could answer my questions. Dont want to learn the game false, for this i want to clearify some doubts.

Thanks!
Matthias



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1. Monsters try to attack the same character the whole battle. Only Flying monsters and monster that are Never Pinned choose a new warrior to fight every turn. When a warrior moves away however and the monster is pinned by another warrior, the monster will attack that warrior (choose if there's more than one.
2. The definition of an attack is best described in the rules of the Imperial Noble. An attack start the moment tries to hit and ends the moment he misses. So, in your example, if the Barbarian misses for the first time this turn after killing those 3 monsters in a deathblow, his second attack starts. He may however NOT move again. Attacking is the final action in the turn of the warrior, so afterwards (or during) he can't do another thing (except minor actions such as swapping potions or bandages, and applying them). The only two warriors that may move during combat are the Wardancer and the Elf Ranger (and he needs a special skill).
3. A deathblow can go either way, it may be clockwise or counterclockwise. You of course have to say which way it goes before you roll to hit of course.
4. As far as I know, a character doesn't have to stop when passing a monster. When someone in my party escapes pinning, he's not pinned by any monsters this turn and can run to safety (or certain doom in the case of the Trollslayer).
5. The Elf can heal himself with his potion if he has 0 wounds. The advanced rules state that healing items (such as bandages and provisions) can't be used when a warrior is unconscious (i.e. on 0 wounds), except is it is a magical potion, which can used on any time (except in case of death).

Hope this helps and let us know how that game comes along. If you ever have any more questions, hey, that's what this board is for (I hope).
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Thanks for your answer, now a lot is more clear.
Only with the first point Im still doubting emoticon. If it is so, that a monster is trying to attack the same character the whole battle, for what exists the "First Attack Rule" on rulebook [sign in to see URL] then?

pg. 19:
"The first attack rule overrides the normal One-on-One rule. The reason for this is, that you have already decided who the Monsters will fight when they are placed. Once this turn of "first attack" is over, the One-on-One rule is used to determine who the Monsters attack once more"

Well, my english isnt that perfect, for this i dont understand completely this phrase. It seems to me, like the target of the monster would change after the round of first attack, according to the one-on-one rule, but the phrase doesnt explain it later, and the example on the page just stops, where this point should be explained. Or is this only like you said for the flying monsters (bats then?) and monsters never pinned (are there some which are never pinned like the elf? Or do you mean not pinned for the moment?)?

For question 4: the situation was this, that three monsters were all in a line at the right side of a corridor, now the barbar was coming from other section, moving to the monster in the middle of the line (because he wanted to try a deathblow and kill all the three monsters with one blow). I wasnt sure, if he could pass the first monster or if he had to stop, when reaching it. Well, seems now that he can.

thanks again, maybe you could explain again the first problem, would help us a lot!

Matthias
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It means that a monster who has been assigned to a warrior MUST attack that warrior in the first round. So if that warrior escapes pinning before the monster has a chance to attack for the first time, the monster must follow (if he's not pinned) instead of attacking the closest warrior. So in the example in the book, if the Elf remained in his place until after the Minotaur attacked and then ran away, the Minotaur doesn't have to follow the Elf. It can attack the closest warrior, following the one-on-one rule, meaning the Barbarian would get the angry monster.

But I've found it the easiest and simplest to have the monsters fight their adversaries to the death and follow them whenever they can (if they're not pinned).

And there are monsters who are never pinned, like the Skaven Clanrat Champion and Skaven Chieftain, and of course the Keeper of Secrets (all of which can be found in the Roleplay Book).
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Aha, I think I understand now, will play it, like you said. One problem we had was, that fighting lots of monsters, we didnt remember well, which monster was assigned to which warrior (mostly when the monsters were archers and far away).
Only one thing more: How do you make it then with the flying monsters like bats? do you every turn assign them new, according to the one-on-one rule?

Thx for your patience answering me :P
Matthias
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Yes, just redistribute is necessary and draw counters again for the remaining ones.
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Don't get too upset if the Monsters don't act COMPLETELY mechanically. A lot can happen in the fog of war. I usually face the Monster minis at the Warriors they are attacking. If a significant number of Monsters (or Warriors!) fall down or are killed, I redistribute them anyway.

Also, it is fun to have Boss Monsters or NPCs act a little more intelligently than the basic rules say.

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