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Hi

I would like to point out that for my group at least, rolling on tables is a much less convenient and much more unrealistic system.

The way we do it, everything is on cards, so you don't have to waste time looking things up and its much more manageable.

Plus, I've found that the tables only incorporate monsters of a particular level, meaning that there's no chance for level 8 warriors to fight snotlings! Just because they're level 8 doesn't mean they won't stumble into a bunch of snotlings.

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Presumably you make your own cards?

I don't know how serious you were being about the snotlings. You're right that they would certainly appear, but there is no way in terms of game mechanics that any but the most cursed party at BL 8 would have trouble dispatching snotlings. Therefore they are the equivilent of free exp- not much, in terms of the goals of BL8 warriors, but free nonetheless. It also wouldn't be much fun, squashing snotlings like flies. What would be the point?
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I would LOVE to do all cards - I'd have decks with different backings based on BL and dungeon location. But getting them printed is totally expensive (every card maker assumes you are going to market creations) and making them sturdily out of prints is a pain in the ass, so I only make cards for BL 1 and events and dungeon rooms.

Everything else will be charts, especially when my Excel database is huge, I'll be able to create any mix I want.

So, Aethys, I'm curious how your group handles cards for different levels as well. Do you have one huge deck or are they broken down?

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we have one deck to start off with, with level 1 monsters and dungeon events. Then we add more as we level up; adding the harder monsters as we naturally get more powerful. The lower levels stay in - increasing the realism and the chance that warriors will still encounter things that are below them. This stays true to the warhammer world.

Yes, there isn't much point in killing snotlings, but the warriors shouldn't be able to choose what monsters they fight. Who knows what evils lurk in the darkness? It's all part of the whole roleplaying system, sometimes you will get bogged down by fighting simple monsters.

And yes, we make our own cards (its not like we're a company, which can print official cards with graphics etc but even tables will cost ink etc. to print off.)

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I recently started making Event-(Monster-)cards but I got a bit turned off by the sheer number of cards there are to be made.
I do think that cards are MUCH better then rolling dice, it's far easier and quicker to make a specific selection of monsters that you will encounter in the dungeon. You can choose to leave out monsters that you don't think are appropriate (or you don't posses the miniatures for) for your adventure. And you can still throw in the odd Snotling or two to mesh to pulp in a higher level...

Here's an example of a (level-1) monstercard

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   I remember trying out the old card system a lot when I first started playing WHQ, and I must admit that while I loved it, once things got past the initial levels I had to resort to the tables, simply because I just don't have the patience to create enough cards for the higher levels.
   Having said that, man does looking things up on tables become a drag if it isn't convenient. Seems to me that the thing with tables is that you need to find a balance between the 'utterly comprehensive table' and the 'table that you can actually look at without your eyes hurting and a degree in algebra or sommat'(tm). emoticon
   When the game becomes more about rolling dice than about roleplay / hack & slash / both (depending on your personal penchant), then I start to weep! :S

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PHILCHAOSLORD!!! emoticon Aren't YOU the guy who wrote up like tons of Monster charts? (hehe)

I have am trying to do an Excel database that incorporates tons of possibilities, and IF that was done then I could make custom charts for specific adventures, with the probabilities stacked any way I choose.

Of course, it'll NEVER be complete.

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   Yeah, it's a bit of a personal hell for me I guess! emoticon Hehe!

   The ExCel database sounds great! And you never know - I've often found that completion of stuff I write just kinda sneaks up on me like [insert assassin / ninja /thief metaphor of your choice]! Of course, I *say* that, and there's still about a million things I never got around to on my Quest To-Do List. But seriously, keep at it - it sounds like a great idea!

   I've always wanted a computerised Visual Basic (or similar) chart, to do all the calculations for me... Unfortunately, with such laziness comes a complete inability for me to ever make a start on creating such a thing. Came close to writing a program to actually try to simulate the game once, back in the day, but it was neither pretty nor the right way of going about it, looking back on it, so that's a no-hoper. Besides which, my other personal hell is reliving my 6th Form Computing lessons! :S Heh!

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Bass Jam,

For the online game, I have a database for the Battle Level Table
Each entry represent a stack of monster (eg 1 goblin shaman + 6 goblin).
Each of it has a difficulty, one among three levels.
Then I roll a d4
1 > Easy
2-3 > Medium
4 > Hard

So it'll be heasy to had colummn about race, regions and type of adventure.
If you explain your idea I can try to include them and publish a form to generate your table


Mickael,
They're beautiful but you can rewrite the characters from GW that way. The look of writing will be the same

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Another rule that we're currently testing is the following:

there are 2 separate event decks. One is for Monsters, the other is for Dungeon Events. This means that you're equally likely to encounter traps etc. as monsters. This adds to the roleplaying side of things.
Upon entering a dungeon room (where you would normally take an event card) roll a d6:
1-3 Dungeon Event Deck
4-6 Monster Deck
Pick up a card and thats it, simple!

It also means we can add as many Dungeon Events/Monsters as we like, and have the massive variety given by the tables, without worrying about balancing the deck (ie. having 7 dungeon event cards for every 12 monster cards or whatever the initial proportion was.)

Brother Andyn

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