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Death-blow ONLY when slain monster was on FULL Wounds just before the blow that kills it.
9 votes
 
 27%
Death-blow even when the slain monster is on LESS than full Wounds.
24 votes
 
 73%
Total: 34 voters.  Total votes: 33.  Max items per vote allowed: 1.
 
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Simple Poll on the Death-blow - Which Way Do You Play It? (related to slain monster's wounds)


I want to be very clear on this question.

The original rule seems slightly unclear on how the Death-blow works, but I think it leans towards the interpretation that you can only perform a death-blow if the target of your attack is killed with a single blow when it has NOT been previously wounded.

Feel free to discuss this issue under this topic as much as you please, but the poll question is very specific. Please note that I am not asking How should the rule be interpreted?, but rather How do you actually play it?.

I don't know how much participation this poll will get, but I am very curious to know how the Death-blow rule is played in your games. It seems to me that if one uses the second method/interpretation, then a death-blow results almost any time you kill a monster with a melee weapon.

Do you play strictly that you only get a death-blow if the slain monster was on full wounds immediately before the attack which kills it?

OR,

Do you play that you get a death-blow if you kill a monster on less than full wounds?

Since this poll is about actual method used, knowing my vote should not influence your vote. emoticon I use the second method.

Last edited by OldWarrior, 6/Mar/2009, 12:25 pm


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Re: Simple Poll on the Death-blow - Which Way Do You Play It? (related to slain monster's wounds)


I go with a third option:
If your hit does more damage than the targets starting wounds (after all modifiers, obviously) you get a deathblow, regardless of whether the monster was wounded or not.
This seems to fit the spirit of the rules a little better :-)
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quote:

Yellow John wrote:

I go with a third option:
If your hit does more damage than the targets starting wounds (after all modifiers, obviously) you get a deathblow, regardless of whether the monster was wounded or not.
This seems to fit the spirit of the rules a little better :-)



I actually used to follow your third option briefly, but then I decided that if killing a perfectly healthy monster allowed me to carry on the blow to the next one, then why not allow it when killing a nearly dead one? This is just to explain how I transitioned through your position to my current one. But, yes, I think your position is ultimately the more logical/realistic one.

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Re: Simple Poll on the Death-blow - Which Way Do You Play It? (related to slain monster's wounds)


Apart from that, in some houserules it is suggested to allow deathblows only with axes and swords. The reason was that only these weapons would allow a strong horizontal blow, slashing through a monster and cutting into the next. It is hard to imagine doing that with a bludgeoning weapon, daggers or the like. How do you handle that?
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Re: Simple Poll on the Death-blow - Which Way Do You Play It? (related to slain monster's wounds)


Thus far, our group looks to be the only one that plays that the monster must be at Full Wounds for a blow-through to occur.

It seams to me that blow-throughs are one of the few things that a low level Warrior can take more advantage of than a high level due to the Wounds that low level monsters have. Considering how dangerous Level 1 can be, it's a nice balancing factor in a way.

It may be difficult to apply sense to the fact that a wounded monster is not susceptible to a blow-through, but a fresh monster is; but it is a game and if it is a factor of balance, then I'm ok with that.
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Sardaukar74 wrote:

Apart from that, in some houserules it is suggested to allow deathblows only with axes and swords. The reason was that only these weapons would allow a strong horizontal blow, slashing through a monster and cutting into the next. It is hard to imagine doing that with a bludgeoning weapon, daggers or the like. How do you handle that?



Yes, I can certainly see that different weapons would seem less likely to do a death-blow.

Just a couple of comments neither for or against such a position really:

Some interpret the Death-blow to be the Warrior's momentum and not that of the weapon -- more of a carry-over of their success to continue attacking the next monster.

I think some weapons would lend themselves to a follow-through attack based upon their heaviness. I can immagine a heavy Warhammer bashing down one monster and then another and etc....

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RedDog3 wrote:

Thus far, our group looks to be the only one that plays that the monster must be at Full Wounds for a blow-through to occur.

It seams to me that blow-throughs are one of the few things that a low level Warrior can take more advantage of than a high level due to the Wounds that low level monsters have. Considering how dangerous Level 1 can be, it's a nice balancing factor in a way.

It may be difficult to apply sense to the fact that a wounded monster is not susceptible to a blow-through, but a fresh monster is; but it is a game and if it is a factor of balance, then I'm ok with that.



Yeah, acutally there are a lot of things in Warhammer Quest which sort of turn logic and reality upside down. Imagine carrying around a ton of gold that was gotten from the bodies of a ton or more of monsters! Add to that carrying around a ton of treasures as well! emoticon

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I'm with RedDog3 100% - it's a reward for low-level characters and mid-level characters when they have to quickly clear a room of vermin and gobbos.

An amusing side-note is when Warriors are hacking on regenning Skeletons and then another Warrior happens along and delivers a Deathblow (because they had regenned to full Wounds).

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Re: Simple Poll on the Death-blow - Which Way Do You Play It? (related to slain monster's wounds)


I play it so the death blow works against monsters who have already been wounded. One quick question, how does everyone divide the gold up from a big monster that all the warriors have wounded?
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Hi Donaldinho, I do not give all the gold to the Warrior that gets last hit like the rules say. Otherwise, the Wizard tends to use area-effect spells to steal kills!

So, if a Warrior deathblows or hacks slowly an entire Monster by himself, he gets all the gold from that Monster as normal.

If more than one Warrior hurt a Monster, even if only two of them, then the slain Monster goes in a "Group Gold" pile. After combat is over, I divvy up the group gold amongst the surviving party members.
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