Ex Blood Bowl Player https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/t90337 Runboard| Ex Blood Bowl Player en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:32:45 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:32:45 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562294,from=rss#post562294https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562294,from=rss#post562294Thank you Old Warrior for your take. Everyone else, please comment. Even if it is just, "I agree with ...", please comment. I need multiple folks saying what they think to help get weight here so I can present it where I am. Read you all soon.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:58:07 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562293,from=rss#post562293https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562293,from=rss#post562293I edited my post above to include more of my opinions.nondisclosed_email@example.com (OldWarrior)Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:30:24 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562292,from=rss#post562292https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562292,from=rss#post562292Thank you edquest. Old Warrior, could you please finish your response? Plus, everyone else, please weigh in. Thank you.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:23:08 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562291,from=rss#post562291https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562291,from=rss#post562291my opinion is he would move in a straight line forwards and make all of his attacks against each model if necessary or until he runs out. so in this example he has 5 attacks including cleats so model 1 would get up to 5 attacks and if it dies the EBBP moves into their square and starts on the one directly behind them (because of moving in a straight line rule) this means he would likely kill every enemy in a straight line which is pretty potent, but not as nasty as say a bow of loren. I would not allow him to attack those to left or right of the straight line as this is intended, I believe, to represent him charging forwards and laying into anything he bumps into on that straight forward charge. he's not lashing out to either or both sides as all. in my opinion. as to the ring, nothing stops him from wearing this. in my games a Ring of Power cannot be used for Damage Dice. my reasoning is that the chaos warrior has a "characteristic table" and Damage Dice are not listed on it, they advance only by achieving the appropriate level. (I know there is the counter argument for the pit fighter buying his characteristics including the Damage Dice, but I think the issue with the ring allowing Damage Dice is that nobody would ever use it for anything else. at least some characters will use WS with my proposed use of the ring, although most will still increase Attacks, wizards and warrior priests can benefit from that WS increase)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Edquest)Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:41:01 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562290,from=rss#post562290https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562290,from=rss#post562290Well, it certainly seems complicated. I might come back later to make additional constructive comments, but my brain is too tired at the moment. I will only answer one of the issues for the moment. I do not see anything in the rules quoted that would prohibit the EBBP from using magical rings. It specifically prohibits other weapons. EDIT: Okay. So, I finally return to do some more thinking and answering. I will quote several questions/issues from Warrior Monk's post and then answer after each quote. quote:Now, at the start of a declared Running Blitz attack, if the EBBP strikes to his left front, killing the monster, does he have to advance into that square immediately? Or can he stand his ground and strike and kill the monster to his right front? And still stand his ground and then strike and kill the monster in front of him and THEN Follow Up into his square as long as he did not run out of attacks until after the monster directly in front of him was dead? And continue his Running Blitz attack forward? In other words: Strike left and kill, Strike right and kill, Strike forward and kill, Follow Up forward, Strike left and kill, Strike right and kill, Strike forward and kill, Follow Up forward, and repeat until movement is expended or you cannot kill all the involved monsters present when the EBBP's natural attacks are completely expended after a move. What are your opinions? I think from the way it is worded that it is implied that the EBBP can only attack ONE monster from each stop along his path in a straight line. It says He may move and attack, then continue moving and attack again. The fact that each monster attacked can be attacked with all of his natural attacks AND that he does NOT get death-blows while performing the Running Blitz, argues strongly in my mind for NOT attacking multiple monsters from the same square. Also, I do NOT see anything in the wording that says it must be that he attacks only monsters in the actual squares of his path of movement. NOR do I see that he must, similar to the Pit Fighter using a Fist Spike, "step into the killed monster's square". To summarize what I get from the wording: The EBBP may attack one adjacent monster (left, right, forward left, forward right, or straight ahead -- or maybe even behind him? lol) with all his natural attacks, then, whether he kills that monster or not, he may move another square (or more) along a straight line, and attack another monster (not one he already attacked, assuming one might have survived) with all of his natural attacks, and so on, until he takes his last step and attacks another monster (if available) from that square. Sub-point: This Running Blitz might be a good argument by itself for the EBBP to indulge in ways to increase his Movement characteristic, since it would increase the amount of potential attacks he could make in a Running Blitz. quote:Now that I finally got that all out in a semi-coherant fashion, here are some other disagreements that have come up concerning the EBBP lately: Someone here has insisted that the D6 in the both the damage from the Spiked Ball {D6+8} and from the Spiked Cleets {D6+Str} stays only a D6's worth of damage and has nothing to do with your current damage dice. What say you folks? For me the Spiked Cleets are much easier to explain the damage than the Spiked Football, because the Spiked Cleets' description actually says that it does normal damage. The expression normal damage in Warhammer Quest means Warrior's Strength + Warrior's Damage Dice. A Sword, for instance, in the Weaponsmith's shop says it does normal damage (1D6 + Strength), but we all(?) know that the 1D6 there only represents a low-level Warrior's Damage Dice value. When a Warrior has Damage Dice: 2, normal damage is then understood to be 2D6 + Strength. I think that since Spiked Football's description does not say normal damage, it would be a little easier to insist that it will always be 1D6+8 damage, but I lean heavily towards allowing the EBBP's Damage Dice to be used. Here is the reason why: The first part of the Spiked Football's description says The Spiked Football allows the Ex-Blood Bowl Player one ranged attack per combat (as you throw the ball at something). I think that the normal rules of the game for how ranged attacks are handled would then apply. Those rules are very similar to the rules for normal damage, except that most ranged weapons have a specified Strength separate from the Warrior's Strength. In this case, the Spiked Football's Strength would be 8. So, normal ranged damage would be ranged weapon's Strength + Warrior's Damage Dice. quote:Persons here have insisted that if you roll 2D6=4,5,or9 while rolling on the Skills chart during training, you lose any possible skill you would have picked up. Others here say just roll again. What do you folks think? IF the issue here is in rerolling these skills -- I suspect it is -- after having already gained them in the past, then the RolePlay Book answers this quite nicely (on page 46): DUPLICATE SKILLS If the roll to determine your Warrior's skill indicates one he already has, you must roll again until you get a skill your Warrior doesn't already have. Unless a Warrior's rules specifically state that they can/may gain the same skill more than once, then I think we should fall back on this general rule that would apply to all Warriors.nondisclosed_email@example.com (OldWarrior)Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:39:13 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562289,from=rss#post562289https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562289,from=rss#post562289Folks, here is the question concerning the Ex Blood Bowl Player (EBBP) and combat I mentioned when I was on last. The Rules read: WEAPONS The Ex-Blood Bowl Player starts the game with the Spiked Shoulder Pads Equipment card. This allows him to make a special Running Blitz attack. He may move and attack, then continue moving and attack again. He may continue to do this as long as he moves in a straight line and doesn't run out of movement points. He may use all of his natural attacks on each enemy attacked, but gets no "deathblows". While doing a Running Blitz, the Ex-Blood Bowl Player can not be pinned. The Ex-Blood Bowl Player may not use any weapons, except his Spiked Shoulder Pads and anything he buys from the Foote Locker. Okay now, I have a question regarding the Running Blitz attack since we have had a disagreement here up in the Rockies.    XXX OXXX[]XXXX XXXX[]XXXO O O Sorry for the primitiveness of this "play" diagram. The EBBP is the "O". and is facing the doorway on the other side of the three monsters (XXX[]). The current characteristics involved with this situation of the EBBP are: WS:6, Att: 4(5): Dam: 2D6(3D6) The fifth attack is due to Spiked Cleets; that is why for the (); a characteristic that could be lost due to an item being lost. The third dice of damage is due to a Ring of Power. Now, at the start of a declared Running Blitz attack, if the EBBP strikes to his left front, killing the monster, does he have to advance into that square immediately? Or can he stand his ground and strike and kill the monster to his right front? And still stand his ground and then strike and kill the monster in front of him and THEN Follow Up into his square as long as he did not run out of attacks until after the monster directly in front of him was dead? And continue his Running Blitz attack forward? In other words: Strike left and kill, Strike right and kill, Strike forward and kill, Follow Up forward, Strike left and kill, Strike right and kill, Strike forward and kill, Follow Up forward, and repeat until movement is expended or you cannot kill all the involved monsters present when the EBBP's natural attacks are completely expended after a move. What are your opinions? Now that I finally got that all out in a semi-coherant fashion, here are some other disagreements that have come up concerning the EBBP lately: Someone here has insisted that the D6 in the both the damage from the Spiked Ball {D6+8} and from the Spiked Cleets {D6+Str} stays only a D6's worth of damage and has nothing to do with your current damage dice. What say you folks? Persons here have insisted that if you roll 2D6=4,5,or9 while rolling on the Skills chart during training, you lose any possible skill you would have picked up. Others here say just roll again. What do you folks think? Because of the EBBP's weapon restrictions, some here say the EBBP cannot use magic rings. Others say they can be his version of the Pit Fighter's Knuckle Dusters without the fighting plus other than what the rings can do as said on the treasure cards. What is your take? Such a shame that the EBBP cannot shop at the Fighting School's armoury. Well, there are the current disagreements involving the EBBP. I would really appreciate you all weighing in on the issues. Thank you.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:35:30 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562287,from=rss#post562287https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562287,from=rss#post562287Old Warrior and Edquest, thank you for your replies. I appreciate the feedback. It would be great to hear from some other folks too! Would you others, that still frequent here at all, please give your take? I like working through issues like this because I never know when or if some of us may have the chance to play together. I would rather have a slight clash/difference here than when we have sat down to play. I have a combat question that I would like your view on, but I need to go right now so I will ask later.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Tue, 07 Oct 2014 09:26:09 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562286,from=rss#post562286https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562286,from=rss#post562286sorry guys I saw this update the other day and forgot to reply. I've always played by the bladed weapon rule and not really considered it until this conversation. this royally stuffed the warrior priest who is frankly of the main release characters by far the weakest, despite the fact that the background is filled with dwarf runesmiths wielding rune hammers...and the hammer of sigmar being described as a hammer covered with dwarven runes... in the past imperial nobles and pit fighters have both used rune of death on their favoured weapons (rapiers and fist spikes respectively) in my games and I've never thought about it in this context. I dunno though I don't view American football shoulder pads with spikes on them the same way as a fist spike or a rapier. but maybe I should. so not entirely a consistent approach from me basically I'll be honest and just say that I don't necessarily regard the rules as written as being all that important, if everyone is having fun. I worry more about rules that hamper fun (like the power grades of certain warriors compared to others) and work to change those.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Edquest)Tue, 07 Oct 2014 07:34:18 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562285,from=rss#post562285https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562285,from=rss#post562285Seems to me that this is an area requiring some interpretation or group judgment perhaps. By group judgment, I mean a consensus of those with whom one plays the game. Not everyone will understand the same words to mean the exact same thing all the time. The Dwarf Guildmasters rules about runes made it clear that only axes could have runes inscribed upon them(at least at that location), but other (perhaps later) Warhammer/Old World background and gaming info revealed that runes could be inscribed upon weapons other than axes. Let's face it. Everyone involved in making the rules, reading, and understanding them are human. No one is perfect. I almost am though, because "I only make one mistake a year" (quoting myself here)... BUT, my wife says that my years are awfully short! nondisclosed_email@example.com (OldWarrior)Mon, 06 Oct 2014 03:37:58 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562284,from=rss#post562284https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562284,from=rss#post562284I have been reflecting more on Edquest's opinion that the spikes, whether shoulder pad, cleat or ball, are not blades, and therefore ineligible for runestone treasure cards. By that working definition, many stilettos are not blades because they are simply round edge-less pieces of metal with a hilt. Furthermore, several forms of trench knives would also not be blades since they are triangular metal lengths with a hilt. Additionally, does a sharp weapon need a length to be a blade rather than just a spike? At least one pair of my own sgian-dubh (also spelled skean dhu; depends which branch of the Celtic languages - P or Q) would not be really considered "blades" since they are barely a spike with a two finger hilt. Moreover, some katars have the bar you hold them with inside the butt of the knife making them a "fist spike" technically. Are they then still a blade? Am I making any sense?nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Sat, 04 Oct 2014 12:37:39 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562283,from=rss#post562283https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562283,from=rss#post562283Okay ... Edquest. A spike is not a bladed weapon?!? Or does it have to be in the hand to count as such in your book? The Ex BB Player has three different varieties of spikes to use as weapons. Are you choosing or excluding arbitrarily? Or is it just a case of overgeneralizing here? There is no runesmith involved with these treasure cards. So who cares if any other warrior can use the very same item? If it deals with the matter at hand, who cares really? And there would have been rune hammers if the Dwarf Runesmith character pack had made it all the way through the development process.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:07:31 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562282,from=rss#post562282https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562282,from=rss#post562282last I recall runes state on the card they can be placed on any bladed weapon but the ex BB player uses shoulder pads, not sure they would count? as for the majority of those any warrior could use them, I don't think it makes up for his not being able to use any weapon he saw fit/within reasonable restrictions (say no two handed) the dwarf runesmith only puts runes on axes too, odd when you think the warhammer background has runesmiths using rune hammers...!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Edquest)Wed, 24 Sep 2014 04:55:44 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562279,from=rss#post562279https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562279,from=rss#post562279Edquest, you are fine with your querys. You are asking merely directly-to-the-point questions and not being confrontational in any way. Let me respond. 1) Magical Weapon: Runestone of Magic from TP3 Undead Bane (TP1) 2) Psychology - Fear: Stone of Bravery from TP2 3) Max Damage: Amulet of Power (WHQ) Lifestealer Talisman (TP1) Potion of Weapon Mastery (TP1) Runestone of Slaying TP1 Ring of Power (TP2) Firestorm Icon (TP2) Chalice of Battle (TP3) Rune of Destruction TP3 Runestone of Death (TP3) Chalice of Vigour (CofT) And these are just what comes to mind quickly. More likely than not, I am forgetting other items in the cards and/or in the RPB that also provide the Ex BB Player with what he/she needs to take out the "Big Bad Guys". Additionally, there are several other treasures that allow the number of attacks to be multiplied and/or repeated. I guess I have always looked at character development as not just what the person can become but also the "toys" they pick up along the way that help out. Anything I have missed Edquest?nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:13:01 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562277,from=rss#post562277https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562277,from=rss#post562277with out magical weapons how does he fight daemons, especially when he fails a fear roll? or ethereal undead for that matter. how will he fare against a standard dragon (toughness 6 armour 6 ignore pain 7)? just querying this, not intending it to come across as too confrontational)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Edquest)Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:03:50 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562270,from=rss#post562270https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562270,from=rss#post562270You all know me - the by-the-way-they-wrote-it-guy. I seem to get along just fine the way the characters were developed. I am no exception with the Ex Blood Bowl Player. Mine has done pretty well getting to Level-6 and on his way to Level-7. Then again: *Cearnaigh MacNiall of Albion goes to the Pit Fighting School every settlement he can find one in; *he has no dislike for rings, bracelets & the like; *And I do not have some ol' fuddy-duddy problem with having more than one copy of non-unique treasure cards available in games. (That is a discussion for a different thread) I expect Cearnaigh to reach Level-10 - someday - and I will have enjoyed most of the journey.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:57:12 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562267,from=rss#post562267https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562267,from=rss#post562267the ex BB player was always a great idea with poor application. I imagine as soon as you get to around level 7 he'll fall flat on his face due to weapon restrictions. (combined toughness, armour and ignore pain hovers around 16+ at this point) I've done a load of modifying warriors to try to bring them all up to around the same power level, game balance is a big thing for me, but this is one warrior I have not invested the time/effort into.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Edquest)Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:45:52 +0000 Thread Necromancy at its best! HahahahahAhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562263,from=rss#post562263https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p562263,from=rss#post562263I use Blitzer #2 that was released as part of the Marauders; I got him and his teammates years before their official release from Gary Morley via Jeremy Vetock. Never much liked the 3rd Ed. Griff; he is not playing - he is grandstanding. The Zug of that edition was not too bad, but still not a favorite. The basic 5th Ed. Griff was better, but I did not like the face of the 5th Ed. BB27 Griff. The 5th Ed. BB27 Zug looked great, but was just too big; it had problems being based on a 25mm round - GW gave you a 40mm round when you bought it. Actually, upon present review, I might have to get out my 5th Ed. humans and see if there is a blitzer among them I would rather use. We will have to see.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Warrior Monk)Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:27:44 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561768,from=rss#post561768https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561768,from=rss#post561768   Oh ok. Excellent.  The Griff Oberwald looks like a standard pose for a guy holding a sword or axe retrofitted for Bloodbowl. ;-) ~Will nondisclosed_email@example.com (WillOhio)Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:01:17 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561746,from=rss#post561746https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561746,from=rss#post561746They recommended Griff Oberwald Star Player: http://www.stebloke.co.uk/wargames/bbfiles/griff_oberwald_l.jpg I've never really like the model, but i do use the ones from the same era. http://www.shaolinnm.com/WHQ/Photos/Warriors/ExBBPlayer01.jpg http://bwarhammerquestcustomized.runboard.com/t149nondisclosed_email@example.com (Littlemonk)Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:26:16 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561736,from=rss#post561736https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561736,from=rss#post561736   I found a suitable vintage model. Looks similar to the one or two images I've seen people using as well.  Will grab Little_Monks new revised version and give it play sometime this next month as I got a group of veterans and newbies alike and we will play a few basic/advanced games to get their feet wet and try some of the "other" Expansion figures before diving into a GM run adventure. Lots of painting to do.... ~Will nondisclosed_email@example.com (WillOhio)Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:33:39 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561732,from=rss#post561732https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561732,from=rss#post561732As far as I know there was no mini designed to use with this character. You need to buy something thats fits you - it may be difficult to buy Blood Bowl hero as the GW have closed all specialist game projects. Some time ago I saw an BB models made by some other producer, if I find it I give you a link.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Jerv)Thu, 13 Jun 2013 05:09:16 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561728,from=rss#post561728https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561728,from=rss#post561728   Is the figure available anywhere? Anyone know the vin/serial number on it?  Is it from Bloodbowl or was it a special made Ex-BloodBowl figure? ~Will nondisclosed_email@example.com (WillOhio)Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:49:46 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561718,from=rss#post561718https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561718,from=rss#post561718quote:WillOhio wrote: Ex-Blood Bowl Player photo of complete set Well done!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Littlemonk)Sat, 08 Jun 2013 18:03:40 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561716,from=rss#post561716https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p561716,from=rss#post561716Ex-Blood Bowl Player photo of complete setnondisclosed_email@example.com (WillOhio)Fri, 07 Jun 2013 01:51:41 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560733,from=rss#post560733https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560733,from=rss#post560733It's OK if he stinks - he's just an ex-jock. It should take him a while to measure up to the other Warrior classes. That said, he's the only semi-official character I've never put on a list for players to use - not excited about him either.nondisclosed_email@example.com (BassJam)Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:13:08 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560695,from=rss#post560695https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560695,from=rss#post560695He really IS awkward in the dungeons. Very seldom does he have the opportunity to do a Running Blitz. By the time everyone and everything gets out of his way for it, most of the monsters are dead! lol I don't really have anything against this Warrior -- because I love variety, BUT, I am not really excited about him either. If we compare him to the Wardancer, the Wardancer would win every time -- in my opinion.nondisclosed_email@example.com (OldWarrior)Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:49:48 +0000 Re: Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560691,from=rss#post560691https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560691,from=rss#post560691Was one of the last of the Citadel Journals that i was able to purchase. Took me awhile to find a 'like new' copy with all inserts. Unfortunately, i don't have a scan of it (scanner is broken). The original has mistakes, misspellings, and misprints. Trust me - you're not missing out. I thought the idea was unique, but in my opinion, the original character was quite unplayable.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Littlemonk)Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:21:56 +0000 Ex Blood Bowl Playerhttps://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560690,from=rss#post560690https://bwarhammerquest.runboard.com/p560690,from=rss#post560690This character has always seemed pretty interesting to me but he also appears to be difficult to track down any info on. Does anyone have scans of his character cards/equipment/items or a list of his rules and abilities? I saw the listing in the warriors section but I'm looking for the original citadel article and images used in either jpg or pdf format if anyone knows where to find it? Heck I've even been looking to buy citadel journal 16 and haven't had any luck finding it on ebay or in pdf format online.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tazaryoot)Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:24:27 +0000